Goku and Vegeta need another form, a fusion and another state of UI to go above the angels imo. A new Gogeta could very well rival the Angels although Grand Priest would still stomp. Is probably just wrong, at least slightly. I speculate that Beerus would win with extremely high difficulty. Considering how powerful Beerus is, the fusion might perhaps not last long enough for Gogeta / Vegito to defeat Beerus. Close. MUI Gogeta sounds incredibly OP but I think Whis still takes it. Every angel glared back at Belmod who snickered and laughed. Ultra Instinct: Also known as Mastery of Self Movement Ultra Instinct is a rare and fabled technique that Goku initially learned of from Whis, revolving around subconsciously avoiding attacks and disregarding his normal capacity to react. Posted by 1 year ago. Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. Archived. Okay so yeah yeah Whis would win. Gogeta Blue VS Ultra Instinct Goku. We don’t know. That is the valid answer, but we can speculate. Even Ultra Instinct Goku was already stronger than the Gods of Destruction and these new forms put them above Ultra Instinct Goku. Battle. But everyone that’s saying things like “it wouldn’t even be close,” “Whis is on another level,” “Goku isn’t even stronger than Beerus” etc. Ultra Instinct Vegito SSB4 Kaioken 100 VS Whis Forum > General Discussion board > Ultra Instinct Vegito SSB4 Kaioken 100 VS Whis The … His body curved and bended in unnatural ways as Jiren, now completely intangible with unmatched speed and strength, made easy work of Gogeta. Finishing Gogeta … 9 9. Similarly SSJB Gogeta has only been shown once, against Broly. Whis watched Gogeta get knocked out of ultra instinct and return back to base form. We're certain that there's no competition between the two. Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. 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