Palmettostatearmory. Turned off: Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 11:28 am Posts: 1076 Location: Shiner, TX I like 10 grains of Unique with Elmer's bullet! The .44 Magnum is a powerful revolver cartridge. This action, being shorter, is felt to be better suited to sixgun cartridges than the .30-30 length 336 action. My Taurus Raging Bull 44 Mag with 8-3/8" barrel likes the 300gr Hornady XTP the best (2.5" groups at 100 yards) and the 180gr Hornady XTPs are extremely accurate in both of my 10mm Auto handguns (Kimber Eclipse Custom II and Glock 20 Gen 4) Seems my 44 shoots just about the same with pretty much any powder I put in it. My full house .44 load is a 240 gr Lee SWC w/ a gas check, sitting atop the Winchester book load of 296. As the chart shows, there were no appreciable differences in velocity when the standard CCI 300 and the magnum CCI 350 primers were used. Winchester .350 Legend Rifles and Ammo Available Right Now, Smith & Wesson Model 19 Classic Revolver Review, Improved Ballistics a Key to Accurate Long-Range Shooting, Black Hills Evolution of Rifle Cartridge: .308 Win. hunting load is a 240gr. The same applies to Accurate 4100 and Enforcer powders. According to my Redding 10X powder measure, gravimetric density of the two powders is the same. Accuracy among the powders may vary a bit from gun to gun, but it is seldom enough to make a difference on the vital area of a whitetail buck standing 125 long paces from the muzzle. Muzzle flash from Lil'Gun in the 4.63-inch barrel was something to behold, and Power Pro 300-MP was close behind. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Stick with the Hornady XTP, and a slow burning powder. And if you want a plinkin load with lead for the mag cases, use 8 grains of unique under a 240 grain hardcast boolit. Examples include 225- to 250-grian cast bullets at 700 to 900 fps, with most being on par with or exceeding .45 ACP power. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: Mag primer.44 Mag case Sierra 240 JHC 22.5-24/H110 or 296 Mag primer.44 Mag case. California Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, State Agency: I'm using X-treme plated 240 gr RN bullets 5.8 gr 231 ~1.610" COL WLP Primers Light crimp, just enough to keep the bullets from being pushed into the case by hand. The information was later included in an article on handloading the .44 Magnum. I usually test bullets first in any new pistol to find a projectile that it prefers using a powder generally recognized as suitable for that cartridge and bullet weight. I have only ever loaded 240s in .44 mag. North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, State Agency: We return to Smith & Wesson in order to review another of … He went on to say that while the powder is formulated to deliver the same performance as W296/H110, it is made to slightly different specifications, and load data are not interchangeable. I had a Henry big boy for years and this is what it shot best. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The .44 Remington Magnum is a versatile cartridge in a revolver due to a wide variety of bullet weights and assortment of suitable propellants. *Most Accurate Load C Compressed Load 1. LOAD GUIDE FOR RIFLE AND HANDGUN EDITION 3.5 INCLUDES: • The most up-to-date and comprehensive 223 Rem data available • New data for: 30 AR, 30 T/C, and 6mmx45 PO B o x 158 • M iles C i t y, M o n tana 59301 RELOADING POWDERS Gun Care Products Other superior products This is a common combination for hunters in heavy brush, as well as in certain cowboy action shooting competitions. The single best powder for full.44 loads is WW296/H110 or other surplus equivalent. data is substantially expanded to include 17 cast and jacketed bullets weighing up to 355 grains. They bought Super Blackhawks, but after comparing trigger quality, I scraped up the additional $25 for an S&W Model 29 with a 6.5-inch barrel. Just as with most .44 Magnum levergun loads my powders of choice for full-house loads are #2400, H110 and WW296. 429360 mold. In addition, H110 is “the” choice for 410-bore shotgun, especially among top competitive skeet and sporting clays shooters. However, I’ve never had any problems with the M336 action and .44 Magnum cartridges. hard cast bullet over 22.5 grains of #2400 for around 1,400 fps or more. Keith pestered the ammo companies to bring out heavier .44 Special loads, but there was a fear that such powerful loads would blow up an older, weaker revolver. Following the release of the AR9 PCC, a 9mm AR-style Pistol Caliber Carbine designed by CK Arms, MPA has launched the DS9 Hybrid series of double-stack... Prize package includes: SIG SAUER P365, 1791 Gunleather’s Ultra Custom Holster and COMPACT pocket-sized PepperBall launcher. Accurate #9 Experience in 44 Mag? I have only ever loaded 240s in .44 mag. The first bullet I loaded in the .44 Magnum was the Lyman No. That was back in the days when people wrote letters, and a reader took me to task for my statement. But in 1956 Keith's efforts culminated in the introduction of the .44 Magnum. ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. You can learn to shoot a revolver accurately with such loads. It would be difficult to find a sixgun powder that does not work well in the .44 Magnum levergun. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: Canister Sizes: View All 2400 ® … All the top-end reloading data with pressure-tested data shows.44 Magnum loads maxing out at 35,000 psi (or 38,000 CUP). The Hornady 265 JFP was originally designed for the .444 Marlin however I find it is an excellent bullet for the .44 Magnum whether used in levergun or sixgun. Keith’s standard load for the.44 Magnum was his 250 to 260-gr. Steve I think I only tried the starting book load of AA#9 in the .50. Groups are for three shots at 50 yards with a 4X scope in place — Hornady 240 XTP over 24.5 grains of WW296 clocks out at 1,728 fps with a 5/8″ group; Hornady 240 XTP, 22.0 grains of #2400, 1,696 fps and 1-1/4″; Hornady 265 XTP, 23.0 grains of WW296, 1,621 fps, 1-1/2″; Speer 240 JHP, 24.5 grains of WW296, 1,681 fps, 3/4″; and Speer 240-gr. A number of rifles and carbines in the Henry Big Boy series are offered in .44 Magnum (most actually, and plenty in .357 Magnum and .45 Colt as well) so there are a number to choose from.. A good starting point is the Big Boy Classic (that’s the Golden Boy, above) , with Henry’s signature brass receiver and octagonal 20-inch barrel. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: When I started loading for the .44 Magnum, carbide sizing dies had not yet arrived. 44 Special cases will give lower velocity spreads than magnum cases with light loads. I do load up some 300gr XTP Mag loads for hogs also. By Chuck Hawks. fordwannabe Advanced Levergunner … handloader with current data for reloading Accurate powders. It’s an amazing feeling that you can’t quantify with words- you have to experience it in person to appreciate the “experience”. Unique loads for 44 magnum looking for a window using Unique and a 265 gr Keith style boolit thanks ... but MAG loads are full house all the way, baby!!!!! The most accurate loads from my 44 Magnum Mountain Gun are the 240s, whether jacketed HPs, softnoses or hardcast over charges of 296/H110 or 2400. The above loads don’t even scratch the surface, as there are many very accurate .44 Mag loads. It is a large, single-action revolver that is meant to be used a primary as a hunting weapon. Any loads destined to be used in a lever gun should first have several dummies made up and checked for feeding through the action and chambering. This ball powder was designed for the.30 Carbine and magnum handgunners have adopted it with good reason. To maximize performance, the ballistics experts at Hodgdon Powder Co., Inc. have developed a comprehensive Reloading Guide to provide handloaders with current data for Accurate Powders. 23 grains over a WLP primer for range shooting and 23.6 for the woods. The Winchester .350 Legend is a no-nonsense whitetail thumper tailored for rifle hunters in... David Fortier talks with Jeff Hoffman of Black Hills Ammunition about the evolution of the .308 Win. 23 grains over a WLP primer for range shooting and 23.6 for the woods. In 1966 my friend the late John Lachuk wrote: “If I had my druthers, I’d take this handy lever-gun and my 44 Maggie and head for the backcountry!” He was talking about the newly introduced Marlin 336T chambered in .44 Magnum. pretty much all the 'magnum' powders listed for the .44 mag are suited to the longer barrel. Sometimes Power Pro 300-MP seems a bit slower burning than W296/H110, but at other times it appears a tad faster. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type 175 Gr. When Hodgdon introduced H4227 during the 1950s, it was military surplus made by DuPont and therefore the same powder DuPont had been selling as IMR 4227 since 1935. John notes the levergun/sixgun combination still is exceptionally viable. Thanks in advance mcb. Vermont Fish & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Many people also like it because they can carry a levergun in .44 Mag, which will be soft-shooting and accurate, and then pair that with a .44 Magnum revolver. Match, Tactical Solutions Introduces New X-Ring Takedown SBR Rifle. In an attempt to prove me wrong, he contacted Hodgdon and Winchester. The old ones still keep on working. High velocity; Magnum handgun loads; Shooter's choice for 410; Principal Purpose: Magnum handgun loads Secondary Uses: .22 Hornet and 218 Bee Remarks: Legendary for its performance in .44 Mag and other magnum pistol loads. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Never saw a real need for anything else. H4227 was officially discontinued in 2009, but shipments continued for quite some time until the supply was exhausted. The basic .44 Magnum loads, while not running any more pressure than a warm .44 Special or a .45 ACP +P, have enough power to be a significant handgun load. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: Actually, I also like Elmer Keith's old load using a 250 grain hardcast bullet over 2400 powder. Top . Hodgdon, says load data for IMR 4227 and H4227 are interchangeable, but as it goes with different manufacturing lots of any powder, maximum loads may or may not be the same. Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: The .44 Special (center) was based on a lengthened .44 Russian cartridge (left), while the .44 Remington Magnum (right) is based on a lengthened .44 Special case. Currently I have accurate #9(I'm a fan of accurate powder) and got my hands on Nosler 240 gr jhp. Midway 44 mag Loadmap Accurate Arms Web Load data for AA#9 Thanks in advance. That explained differing maximum charge weights published for the two powders in various reloading manuals for .44 Magnum loads. Iowa Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Of the over 100,000.44 Mag loads I have fired, over 80% of them have been 25 H110/296 and a 250 Keith, the Hensley & Gibbs #503. I could also use loads for the same revolver, but using .44 Special brass. I have pissed off a neighbor when I shot a 2" group @ 100 yards with a 245 gr Keith SWC load with my Ruger SBH 7.5" VS … My first article was published in 1967 in the now long-gone magazine called GUNsport. They have served me well for both cast bullets and jacketed bullets. Actually, I also like Elmer Keith's old load using a 250 grain hardcast bullet over 2400 powder. He went on to say: “One-caliber rifle-pistol duos are a Western tradition, handed down from the days when ammo counters were few and far between.” Little did I know I would not only meet John in the future but we’d also become good friends. Over the ensuing years I have read millions of words and also written several million words. While the .32 H&R Magnum doesn't get the attention it deserves, plenty of handloading... Handloading the .38 WCF is a bit more involved than handloading for other cartridges, but... Give a Gift   A 240 at 900 is stout enough to be a "real load" but not so heavy that you'll spend more time flinching than aiming. Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: All excellent hunting loads. During the early 1960s, Hodgdon introduced H110, a military-surplus powder developed by Olin/Winchester during World War II for the .30 Carbine. The Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44 Remington Magnum has always been a favorite revolver for sport and pleasure.Filled with .44 Magnum cartridges, it is ready for target practice or hunting. I get pinpoint accuracy and the recoil doesn't make me flinch after 50 rounds. Then there is the matter of primer suitability. The.44 Mag. 44 loads globemountain: I agree with JJHACK here. Match bullet. Don't whimp out on us! So I finally snuck out to the range to test out some lighter powder puff 44 mag loads that I plan to use for indoor/winter shooting since we can't shoot jacketed or magnum rounds indoors. Joined: Jun 29, 2009 Messages: 1,223 Location: Huntsville, AL. The limiting factor of the .44 Magnum cartridge is not terminal ballistics. Very accurate and chronographs right at 1350fps. Frank and Tony from Gallery of Guns spice up the Glock test using their non-dominant hands. Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: The containers of Accurate 4100 and Ramshot Enforcer have different exterior appearances, but according to my contact at Western Powders, they contain the same powder. |   Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: Felt recoil is certainly much less than one might expect; there were no problems encountered with recoil even when spending several hours at the shooting bench. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: My full house .44 load is a 240 gr Lee SWC w/ a gas check, sitting atop the Winchester book load of 296. We look at the futuristic .450 Bushmaster and how it compares to the tried and true .45-70. Posted February 2, 2007. When first learning of the new powder, I assumed it would require the use of a magnum primer, such as CCI 350 or Federal 155. I have been loading IMR 4227 in the .44 Magnum almost as long as 2400 and found its burn rate to be the same as H4227. If it proves too much for you, you can always feed it lighter loads or even.44 Specials. 12 BHN alloy. The answer to the question of whether or not velocities with the two types of primers will be as close during extremely cold weather will have to wait until winter. Matched with my ever-present Bear Buster Ruger 4-5/8" .44 Flat-Top, it made the perfect sixgun/levergun combination for deep woods hunting. The first issue of GUNS Magazine arrived in January 1955 when I was a junior in high school. Quite a collection: John has been loading the .44 Magnum using #2400 for over 60 years. And, after all this time, with everything I’ve read and everything I’ve written, there is one line that stands out and I consider the best words ever written — at least for those things I’m primarily interested in. The most accurate loads from my 44 Magnum Mountain Gun are the 240s, whether jacketed HPs, softnoses or hardcast over charges of 296/H110 or 2400. Based on my limited experience with it, I will have to say it is likely built to slightly different specifications, but the two powders are darned close in performance. I have burned enough of the slow burners through the years to already know that any good revolver will shoot good bullets inside 4 inches at 50 yards with either of them, and some will beat that by an inch or so. Data from Ballistics By The Inch indicates that.44 Remington Magnum gets another 300 fps to 400 fps from an 18-inch barrel compared to the 6-inch barrel of a Model 29, depending on the load. Due to the supply problems I've been forced to change up. comprises a half-dozen mostly flatpoint or semiwadcutter cast bullets weighing from 165 to 240 grains. Ruger offers several MUCH better options in .44 magnum that will outlast generations of shooters with a steady diet of magnum loads up to and including heavy loads from Buffalo Bore (and others) that aren't supposed to be fired out of a Pietta. All Rights Reserved. When loading the slow burners, keep in mind that, as a rule, ignition is more reliable and burn is more complete when they are compressed by a seated bullet. This holds especially true under frigid ambient conditions. IMR 4227 and H4227 rank among the best at delivering low velocity spreads for the .44 Magnum. pretty much all the 'magnum' powders listed for the.44 mag are suited to the longer barrel. The 300 grain hardcast bullets are also pretty accurate but I like JJ's advice on bullet choices. John Wayne and Lever-Action, American! for the 429-421 and the RCBS clone, 8.5 - 10 grains has been the range I have used, but the 8.5 grain load was more accurate for me and was the load I used the most. 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